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of course, the senior republican was not named because no political figure would want to attach their name to such a shameless quote. so here is how the massive shifting would work, there is legislation moving in three states that went for president obama in november. in virginia, president obama received 51% of the popular vote. and all 13 of virginia's electoral votes, winner take all. under the change proposed by republican state senator charles caricco, which is expected to be voted on next week in the state committee, president obama would have received four electoral votes from the four districts he won, mitt romney, seven electoral votes from the districts he won, plus the two at large votes for winning the most districts. that means barack obama who won 51% of the popular vote in virginia would get 31% of the electoral votes, and mitt romney who won 48%, a minority of the popular vote in virginia would get 69% of its electoral votes. in michigan, president obama got 54% of the popular vote, and all 16 of the state's electoral votes under the change presented, president obama w
of course, the senior republican was not named because no political figure would want to attach their name to such a shameless quote. so here is how the massive shifting would work, there is legislation moving in three states that went for president obama in november. in virginia, president obama received 51% of the popular vote. and all 13 of virginia's electoral votes, winner take all. under the change proposed by republican state senator charles caricco, which is expected to be voted on next...
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i mean, she is her own political entity. this is a continuation of clintonism. >> i agree, i thought all the blind quotes sounded to me like joe biden people trying to sound like they could be anyone's people. i don't think if you're hillary clinton there is an issue about a private conversation. if you're hillary clinton and you want to go out there and do it, you will go out there, and crush who is in the primary, joe biden or cuomo, up need to. it seems much more of a joe biden-type argument, saying obviously we'll coordinate and work out. >> karen finney, joe biden is a great vice president, it is a job that is hard to be great at. he has found a way to be great at. is there any way he could be talked into it doing it for 16 years. >> the longest serving vice president in history. >> are you suggesting the joe biden-hillary clinton ticket? i had that thought today. he has actually made the role of vice president in the way i think she has re-made the role of secretary of state. i think the country would do well to have t
i mean, she is her own political entity. this is a continuation of clintonism. >> i agree, i thought all the blind quotes sounded to me like joe biden people trying to sound like they could be anyone's people. i don't think if you're hillary clinton there is an issue about a private conversation. if you're hillary clinton and you want to go out there and do it, you will go out there, and crush who is in the primary, joe biden or cuomo, up need to. it seems much more of a joe biden-type...
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>> i think there's less focus on what the obama politics of the moment or his legacy. and it's beginning to creep, at least with some people, about what story they will be able to tell for the next election of what they did. they recognize that the president has had a lot of capital. he will use it. but for them, and it's not -- we talked about, they're split but there are some people saying thousand can we influence things? -- saying how can we influence things? chris: why don't they start passing bills in the house on background checks? >> more willingness to move forward on immigration than anything that hags the word gun in it. chris: thank you. when we come back, scoops and predictions right from t ♪ secondhand smoke affects everyone's health. it's not just irritating. it can cause heart disease and even death. speak up about secondhand smoke. your health and the health of your family depend on it. chris: welcome back. chuck todd, tell me something i don't know. >> sacks by chambliss retiring. -- saxby chambliss retiring. his best friend in the house, we see the
>> i think there's less focus on what the obama politics of the moment or his legacy. and it's beginning to creep, at least with some people, about what story they will be able to tell for the next election of what they did. they recognize that the president has had a lot of capital. he will use it. but for them, and it's not -- we talked about, they're split but there are some people saying thousand can we influence things? -- saying how can we influence things? chris: why don't they...
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>> i think there's less focus on what the obama politics of the moment or his legacy. and it's beginning to creep, at least with some people, about what story they will be able to tell for the next election of what they did. they recognize that the president has had a lot of capital. he will use it. but for them, and it's not -- we talked about, they're split but there are some people saying thousand can we influence things? -- saying how can we influence things? chris: why don't they start passing bills in the house on background checks? >> more willingness to move forward on immigration than anything that hags the word gun in it. chris: thank you. when we come back, scoops and predictions right from t ♪ using cloud computing and mobile technology, verizon innovators have developed a projective display for firefighters. allowing them to see through anything. because the world's biggest challenges deserve even bigger solutions. powerful answers. verizon. (woman) 3 days of walking to give a break cancer survivor a lifetime-- that's definitely a fair trade. it was such
>> i think there's less focus on what the obama politics of the moment or his legacy. and it's beginning to creep, at least with some people, about what story they will be able to tell for the next election of what they did. they recognize that the president has had a lot of capital. he will use it. but for them, and it's not -- we talked about, they're split but there are some people saying thousand can we influence things? -- saying how can we influence things? chris: why don't they...
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now house speaker john boehner says president obama is out to annihilate the republican party. we'll talk about all that with new hampshire senator kelly ayotte and our political panel in just a few moments. >> also, big time golfers phil mickelson, tiger woods, lebron james and derek jeter are all supply siders. we'll explain that later this hour. >> i wasn't involved in the talking points process. as i understand it, as i've been told, it was a typical interagency process where staff, including from the state department all participated to try to come up with whatever was going to be made publicly available. >> that of course was secretary of state clinton today on capitol hill saying she had no role in susan rice's false talking points on the benghazi consulate attack. but will we ever find out why ambassador rice denied the terrorist attack and misled the public saying this on "meet the press." >> what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. >> and will we ever get a full answer on exactly what hap
now house speaker john boehner says president obama is out to annihilate the republican party. we'll talk about all that with new hampshire senator kelly ayotte and our political panel in just a few moments. >> also, big time golfers phil mickelson, tiger woods, lebron james and derek jeter are all supply siders. we'll explain that later this hour. >> i wasn't involved in the talking points process. as i understand it, as i've been told, it was a typical interagency process where...
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i know politics. i don't know this politics. obama's the president. he will be for four years. he's the guy who will make the calls politically until 2016. is this about just attacking democrats? is this about trying to convince her, mrs. clinton, not to run? if so, it might just be the easiest way to guarantee she runs. don't you think? near ra is a former policy director to hillary clinton and ron reagan is an msnbc political analyst. both of you are good people to have on right now. i want to get a comment from near ra and i want a gut reaction. this disgusting attack, the back benchers, each one of these nuts, they are nutty in their behavior, hannity, the new york post with the disgusting front page today, rush limbaugh with his usual feminine nazi nonsense coming out. do you think this will make secretary clinton more likely to run for president or less likely that all the jackals are attacking her. >> i don't think risch limbaugh or any of these people will have a dime's bit of difference on hillary clinton. she has been dealing with their ilk for 20 years. she's going t
i know politics. i don't know this politics. obama's the president. he will be for four years. he's the guy who will make the calls politically until 2016. is this about just attacking democrats? is this about trying to convince her, mrs. clinton, not to run? if so, it might just be the easiest way to guarantee she runs. don't you think? near ra is a former policy director to hillary clinton and ron reagan is an msnbc political analyst. both of you are good people to have on right now. i want...
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. >> in many ways this was obama pulling frankly a bill clinton, a politically shrewd move, all about the clintons and hillary ace political future. the joke is whether vice president joe biden has been peeled off the ceiling yet but on what may have been the more interesting obama interview published this weekend, the president talked gun control, the future of both parties and football with the "new republic" as they tried to relaunch. the president acknowledged getting gun control through congress will be tough and said "if you group up and your dad gave you a hunting rifle when you were 10 and you spent the day whim and your uncle and that became part of i don't are family traditions, you can see why you would be protective of that." ask if he ever fired a gun, the president went as far to say up at camp david we do skeet shooting all the time. the president will meet with law enforcement officials across america. it's looking more and more like by the way, that a background check bill is the vehicle that is most likely to get through the senate. on friday oklahoma republican sena
. >> in many ways this was obama pulling frankly a bill clinton, a politically shrewd move, all about the clintons and hillary ace political future. the joke is whether vice president joe biden has been peeled off the ceiling yet but on what may have been the more interesting obama interview published this weekend, the president talked gun control, the future of both parties and football with the "new republic" as they tried to relaunch. the president acknowledged getting gun...
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hay out of an issue. >> obama is seeking political victory. obama doesn't care about enforcing existing law. so people say why will he enforce anything that is new. >> once again, limbaugh is clearly delusional. one of the reasons we need immigration reform is because there were a record number of deportations last year. president obama has presided over 1.5 million deportations in four years. it took w. eight years to deport 2 million people. but marco rubio still went on air with the peddler of lies to kick obama on immigration. >> obama is not going to be president forever. as long as the next four years may seem, he won't be president forever. we have to write laws with that in mind as well. >> president obama agrees with marco rubio and other senators on almost every aspect of immigration reform. but republicans are not doing this because they are interested in real reform. john mccain actually told us the truth. they are doing it so they can win elections. meanwhile, our current immigration fiasco takes a tremendous toll. now, listen to
hay out of an issue. >> obama is seeking political victory. obama doesn't care about enforcing existing law. so people say why will he enforce anything that is new. >> once again, limbaugh is clearly delusional. one of the reasons we need immigration reform is because there were a record number of deportations last year. president obama has presided over 1.5 million deportations in four years. it took w. eight years to deport 2 million people. but marco rubio still went on air with...
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msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications drishgt karen finney is here, and mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. channelling the spirit of rick perry, will the republican party finally have a heart when it comes to immigration? president obama is en route to las vegas where he will outline his immigration priorities just hours from now which comes amid signs of bipart sfwlan agreement on the issue in the senate. for senate leaders it has been a swift path from this attitude -- >> drug and human smuggling, home invasions, murder. >> we're outmanned. with all the illegals in america, more than half come through arizona. >> complete the dang fence. >> to this attitude. >> we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes, and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> but even if john mccain has changed his tune, getting the house gop to harmonize may not be so easy. michael steel spokesman for john boehner, was decidedly noncommitmental on the i
msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications drishgt karen finney is here, and mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. channelling the spirit of rick perry, will the republican party finally have a heart when it comes to immigration? president obama is en route to las vegas where he will outline his immigration priorities just hours from now which comes amid signs of bipart sfwlan agreement on the issue in the senate. for senate leaders it has been a swift path from this...
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they fit the demographics of the obama coalition. how did he win? college educated women. younger voters. nonwhite voters. he's embracing if you will not only the politics but the policy priorities of his coalition. what else do they have in common? they put pressure like a sharp thumb on some key points in a republican coalition that this white house frankly thinks is ageing, is increasingly white and is fractured. >> you think there's no doubt that that is part of this equation? >> without a doubt. if you heard speaker john boehner after the inaugural address saying the president is trying to annihilate the republican party. that's a strong word. does this president see an opportunity? you can't find many democrats who think that president obama worries about the democratic party, 10, 15, 20 years down the road. you'll find a lot of democrats that say if you can turn the obama coalition into a democratic coalition, the democrats will have built in on the national stage what ronald reagan had for 20 years and republican party had after ronald reagan on the republican stag
they fit the demographics of the obama coalition. how did he win? college educated women. younger voters. nonwhite voters. he's embracing if you will not only the politics but the policy priorities of his coalition. what else do they have in common? they put pressure like a sharp thumb on some key points in a republican coalition that this white house frankly thinks is ageing, is increasingly white and is fractured. >> you think there's no doubt that that is part of this equation?...
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the politics of this have been really talked about a lot. in fact, we talked about it earlier this hour. let me start with the economics of immigration reform. a number of ceos have told us that they would like to see this in the perspective of, hey, let's get some highly skilled immigrants in here that will help the economy. that will help us to get us turned around. your views are what? >> there is no question if we follow what is good economic policy for america we will have immigration reform. it will allow more skilled and unskilled foreign workers to come into the united states. we need the labor. if you look at the labor participation rate in the united states, it is almost at a record low for the percentage of adults who are actually working or trying to get a job. only about 58%. if you are going to grow your economy, you have to have enough workers and we do not right now. connell: we are behind on this, aren't we? i was doing a story a couple years ago on the european financial crisis when they were really at the worst of it and t
the politics of this have been really talked about a lot. in fact, we talked about it earlier this hour. let me start with the economics of immigration reform. a number of ceos have told us that they would like to see this in the perspective of, hey, let's get some highly skilled immigrants in here that will help the economy. that will help us to get us turned around. your views are what? >> there is no question if we follow what is good economic policy for america we will have...
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he says if obama pushes a fast pass to legalization above other reform priorities, he could fracture the coalition which may be the point. the idea that the president wants us to fall apart for republicans for his own political -- >> i think -- >> for his next election campaign? >> exactly. >> for hillary in 2016. >> that's exactly right. on the equality piece, i think the president has made clear that he is for equality for all citizens. when you are for, it you have to be for it across the board, and that's why it's in the bill. i think it's just -- i know it's cynical to say about washington, but it's just the right policy and the right thing to do, and i think that's why the president comes to it that way. it will be interesting to see what pieces of this get coupled together, though. the security piece, border security and enforcement, the president has already done a lot. >> yes. to the ayre of many in the latin community. >> if there were a democratic primary this time around, i think people would have talked a lot about deportations and how much enforcement there was. there's
he says if obama pushes a fast pass to legalization above other reform priorities, he could fracture the coalition which may be the point. the idea that the president wants us to fall apart for republicans for his own political -- >> i think -- >> for his next election campaign? >> exactly. >> for hillary in 2016. >> that's exactly right. on the equality piece, i think the president has made clear that he is for equality for all citizens. when you are for, it you...
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and as we well know, the people in the white house are experts at calculating president obama's political interest. and they're going to say, you know, how is this going to go? and they're also experts at looking at the question, and they will relook at it, is chuck hagel the right person for this job? because we may be going into four years of foreign policy and defense dust-ups and serious confrontations. this, arguably, is the most important cabinet appointment. as we learned in the susan rice non-nomination for secretary of state, they're willing in the white house to say, now, wait a minute. this isn't working out. this may not be the right person. and take that short-term hit. i think the real issue is how does the white house really look at it? i think now they're just going to wait it out. but time may not be on their side. >> chuck, it's donny. i want to go back to something you said about running the mock hearing. >> yeah. >> he could -- and i'd like to know what the white house's position or response to this is. you literally could have prepped him in seven minutes. there are b
and as we well know, the people in the white house are experts at calculating president obama's political interest. and they're going to say, you know, how is this going to go? and they're also experts at looking at the question, and they will relook at it, is chuck hagel the right person for this job? because we may be going into four years of foreign policy and defense dust-ups and serious confrontations. this, arguably, is the most important cabinet appointment. as we learned in the susan...
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she is a perfect spokesperson for president obama's democrat party. with all due respect to the office of the presidency, when i hear barack obama speak at this point, especially when he lectures about ethics and civility, it's nauseating to me. >> that's a very scary thought, because barack obama is a socialist. he believes in socialism, in redistributing wealth, in confiscating hard-earned dollars. independent, patriotic americans who desire fiscal santa in our beloved nation being called terrorists, heck, sean, if we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, president obama would be wanting to pal around with us, wouldn't he? "time" magazine, consider their list of most influential people in the world, some who have made the list, yours truly. that ought to tell you something right there regarding the credence that we should give "time" magazine and their list of people. >> i wouldn't want to join a club that would accept me as a member. groucho marx said that there. she said something like it. it could be palin is out of step with the republican party
she is a perfect spokesperson for president obama's democrat party. with all due respect to the office of the presidency, when i hear barack obama speak at this point, especially when he lectures about ethics and civility, it's nauseating to me. >> that's a very scary thought, because barack obama is a socialist. he believes in socialism, in redistributing wealth, in confiscating hard-earned dollars. independent, patriotic americans who desire fiscal santa in our beloved nation being...
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they got elected on principle, not on politics. >> narrator: as the week wore on, obama began to worry about the grand bargain. >> he calls boehner that night and leaves a voicemail. boehner doesn't ck up. >> the president said, "get back to me tonight, john." the president didn't hear. i think he called me around 10:00, 10:30 and said, "have you heard anything?" i said no. i tried to reach the speaker and i had his cell phone, and he didn't answer. which is very unlike him, because he always answered his cell phone. i reported that i hadn't heard back from him yet. so we were, there was... trying to figure out what the hell was going on here. >> the white house, they get kind of angry as time goes on, because they start to understand that they're getting double-crossed in some way and boehner won't call back. >> narrator: by friday, speaker boehner called a press conference. >> we get this announcement that there's going to be a briefing in boehner's conference room. we don't know. we still think there's a deal. we think this is to announce a deal. and i get to the conference room, an
they got elected on principle, not on politics. >> narrator: as the week wore on, obama began to worry about the grand bargain. >> he calls boehner that night and leaves a voicemail. boehner doesn't ck up. >> the president said, "get back to me tonight, john." the president didn't hear. i think he called me around 10:00, 10:30 and said, "have you heard anything?" i said no. i tried to reach the speaker and i had his cell phone, and he didn't answer. which...
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he insists now that president obama has adopted a scorched earth policy toward republicans. chief white house correspondent ed henry has the specifics. >> congratulations. godspeed. [ applause ] >> within 24 hours of the traditional inaugural lunchen, speaker john boehner was singing another tune about president obama's intentions. >> so we are expecting here over the next 22 months, to be the focus of this administration. as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. and let me just tell you, i do believe that is their goal. to just shove us in to the history. >> today, white house spokesman jay carney rejected that charge, saying you heard them say in the inaugural address, even though we have profound differences it's imperative we come together. in the inaugural address, though, the president also took this shot at republicans. >> we cannot mistake absolutism for principle. or substitute spectacle for politics. or treat name-calling as reasoned debate. >> in the public believes since the re-election, the president has gotten more come bative. in the latest fox poll
he insists now that president obama has adopted a scorched earth policy toward republicans. chief white house correspondent ed henry has the specifics. >> congratulations. godspeed. [ applause ] >> within 24 hours of the traditional inaugural lunchen, speaker john boehner was singing another tune about president obama's intentions. >> so we are expecting here over the next 22 months, to be the focus of this administration. as they attempt to annihilate the republican party....
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director john dickerson, who said president obama should "go for the throat." republicans are now more paranoid than ever. speaker boehner is basically whining like a coach who's had the score run up on him. i mean, boehner has a little less swagger than he did two years ago when he took over the house with this wave of tea party republicans, but what a difference a couple of years makes. president obama is not the only one who benefits from contrasting himself with the republican party. governors like chris christie and bobby jindal take occasional shots at their own party and look almost mainstream by comparison. for the record, white house press secretary jay carney said today that the president believes a strong two-party system is the foundation of our democracy. let's bring in msnbc political analyst richard wolffe and vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com. richard, great to have you on always. >> thanks, ed. >> no one, including president obama, has the power to shove the gop into the dustbin of history unless they of course do it themselves.
director john dickerson, who said president obama should "go for the throat." republicans are now more paranoid than ever. speaker boehner is basically whining like a coach who's had the score run up on him. i mean, boehner has a little less swagger than he did two years ago when he took over the house with this wave of tea party republicans, but what a difference a couple of years makes. president obama is not the only one who benefits from contrasting himself with the republican...
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next two years should be to deny president obama a second term. but the fact is, if our primary legislative goals are to repeal and replace the health spending bill, to end the bailouts, cut spending and shrink the size and scope of government, the only way to do all of those things is to put someone in the white house who won't veto any of these things. >> after that, democrats worried republicans were trying to annihilate the democratic party, in part by trying to destroy unions, the most vivid example of that, wisconsin. the republican governor successfully pushed a bill that stripped collective bargaining rights for most public unions. ohio and michigan followed scott walker's lead with mixed success. and now it seems the tables have turned. now if you believe boehner, the democrats want to annihilate the gop. so the talkback question for you, do you agree with boehner? will obama try to annihilate the republican party? facebook.com/carolcnn, or tweet me @carolcnn. i'll be right back. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair has the fastest retinol f
next two years should be to deny president obama a second term. but the fact is, if our primary legislative goals are to repeal and replace the health spending bill, to end the bailouts, cut spending and shrink the size and scope of government, the only way to do all of those things is to put someone in the white house who won't veto any of these things. >> after that, democrats worried republicans were trying to annihilate the democratic party, in part by trying to destroy unions, the...
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so this -- what everybody is talking about, obama and hillary clinton on "60 minutes." >> you guys in the press are encourageable. i was literally elected four days ago. >> yeah and as you know i'm still secretary of state, so i'm out of politics and i'm forbidden from even hearing these questions. you know, look obviously the president and i care deeply about what is going to happen for our country in the future and i don't think either he or i can make predictions about what is going to happen tomorrow or the next year. >> stephanie: but charlie pierce can. >> we can't make prediction but boy that bobby jindal is a jerk isn't he? they should take that act on the road. the sly little glances at each other and stuff. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: what do you think? >> i -- it is 2013 i refuse to say anything about 2016 until 2015. however, i think the one person that everybody is sleeping on on the republican side is scott walker. if he managed to stay unconvicted in this milwaukee john doe thing, i think he is the one person nobody is paying at attention to. he is a republican governor
so this -- what everybody is talking about, obama and hillary clinton on "60 minutes." >> you guys in the press are encourageable. i was literally elected four days ago. >> yeah and as you know i'm still secretary of state, so i'm out of politics and i'm forbidden from even hearing these questions. you know, look obviously the president and i care deeply about what is going to happen for our country in the future and i don't think either he or i can make predictions about...
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all of the political hubbub about whether it would be an act of terrorism -- to me, a lot of that is white noise. there's not been an attempt to have stability in libya. the obama administration has been repeating the mistake that the bush administration made in iraq and afghanistan. they were focused on the military campaign but not focus on the nation building. we have paid a huge cost for that in iraq afghanistan. a lot of the arms in the arsenal of muammar gaddafi have been smuggled into countries like y fueled a the fi fresh insurgency. we have taken our eye off the ball in libya ever since the overthrow of gaddafi. that's the big issue from the hearings. host: our guest is max boot, senior fellow with the council on foreign relations. was a senior foreign policy adviser to the john mccain campaign in 2008. he is the author of a new book called "invisible armies." a little more about the faces of your book -- a little more about the thesis of your book. this idea of guerrilla warfare is not something new. guest: i exam the long history of insurgency and guerrilla warfare and it
all of the political hubbub about whether it would be an act of terrorism -- to me, a lot of that is white noise. there's not been an attempt to have stability in libya. the obama administration has been repeating the mistake that the bush administration made in iraq and afghanistan. they were focused on the military campaign but not focus on the nation building. we have paid a huge cost for that in iraq afghanistan. a lot of the arms in the arsenal of muammar gaddafi have been smuggled into...